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jettadude
05-16-2005, 09:56 PM
well i was going into 2nd hard and the car just acted like i was riding the clutch. NOOOOO SLIPAGE!!! at 97,760miles the clutch is starting to go. if i just floor it it doesn't slip yet. so i guess i can make it 2 100,000miles before i have to change it. but im just gonna go stock replacement cuz the sport one is insanely expencive! so just felt that i should say somthing.
Mr_Diesel
05-17-2005, 08:50 AM
The clutch in my 2.0L has been going out for the past 2 months, and I have since put 9,000 miles on it... Be nice to it and it will last a while so you can save for the better clutch.
I hit something and shreded my tire over the weekend, and I am not going to tell you what it was cause you will laugh at me, but it fscked my wheel bearing too, so here is the most recent list:
1. 2.0L 16V engine swap
2. 2 wheel bearings
3. 4 CV Joints
4. Rear brake pads and rotors
5. Power steering rack.
My car has 190,000 miles on it, so it's been around the block a few more times, but you can save your clutch... if you baby it a little. What repairs are you planning soon other than the clutch?
Speedadkt
05-17-2005, 12:00 PM
Guys, I hate to say this, it's not meant as an insult AT ALL but, if you're clutch is going you're not engaging it correctly.
I've got over 300 hp in my 1.8T and at 127k + miles, the STOCK CLUTCH is still working perfectly. It takes some finesse and a resistance to the lead foot disease. Please at least consider that you may be driving the components WAY beyond their capacity.
I'm not saying you can't drive (though this may also be true j/k). Just that you're style is not compatible with the stock machinery in these cars. As for the sport cutches, yeah they're too expensive for what you get and the full race ones are great if you enjoy stalling out in parking lot traffic during your commute. Consider getting a 1 for 1 aftermarket replacement clutch which is usually a lot lighter and so is the flywheel.
jettadude
05-17-2005, 10:02 PM
4 people learned how to drive clutch on this car before me. the has been beat to death by 5 other owners. the clutch grabs high as hell. like a inch before the end. its done. i know how to handle a clutch. if you shift into 2nd and it slips it slips. and what do you mean not driving it corectly. its a clutch. its a simple part. either it grabs or it doesn't. either its engaged or not. how many people learned to drive clutch. learning to drive clutch is the hardest thing on them beause of all the ridding you do. also put age into it. my car is a 96. been through 5 owners before me. 1 accident and a girl learner driver!!
the clutch is going. its not slipping bad but i did notice it. and im gonna run a sachs hi perf clutch kit and a findeza lightweight flywheel. ill do the clutch over the summer my friend said he would help me.
jettadude
05-17-2005, 10:05 PM
Guys, I hate to say this, it's not meant as an insult AT ALL but, if you're clutch is going you're not engaging it correctly.
I've got over 300 hp in my 1.8T and at 127k + miles, the STOCK CLUTCH is still working perfectly. It takes some finesse and a resistance to the lead foot disease. Please at least consider that you may be driving the components WAY beyond their capacity.
I'm not saying you can't drive (though this may also be true j/k). Just that you're style is not compatible with the stock machinery in these cars. As for the sport cutches, yeah they're too expensive for what you get and the full race ones are great if you enjoy stalling out in parking lot traffic during your commute. Consider getting a 1 for 1 aftermarket replacement clutch which is usually a lot lighter and so is the flywheel.
ok i don't know about anyone else but a stock clutch with that many miles with that kind of power and you say it doesn't give you any trouble. its the same thinkness as my clutch. im haveing a bit of trouble swollowing that. what all do you have done. got a dyno sheet? pics?
Mr_Diesel
05-18-2005, 11:40 AM
I agree with speed when he says it's possible to make the clutch last, but if you are ever going to have fun with the car (Ex: The lead foot disease) then the clutch is going to suffer. Revving to your favorite rpm and letting out the clutch slower than usual never felt better. Thats when I noticed mine was starting to slip... Hard/Fast shifting, etc...
jettadude
05-18-2005, 10:46 PM
well since then pulled the clutch. there was buildup on it. something. like it didn't fulley engage and just grinded it down and it stayed on the disc. cleaned it. put everything back together also threw in a new trans mount. and its fine. it looked low but i can get another 10,000 miles out of it. *** i love haveing access to a garage for free.
Mr_Diesel
05-19-2005, 12:03 AM
well since then pulled the clutch. there was buildup on it. something. like it didn't fulley engage and just grinded it down and it stayed on the disc. cleaned it. put everything back together also threw in a new trans mount. and its fine. it looked low but i can get another 10,000 miles out of it. *** i love haveing access to a garage for free.
Check your valve cover gasket... If it is leaking, that'll drip down the size and into the clutch area... That's how I nuked my 84 rabbit diesel clutch was there was a massive amount of oil going down into the clutch area.... Not good.
That's pretty sweet though...
burn_your_money
05-19-2005, 07:52 PM
Check your valve cover gasket... If it is leaking, that'll drip down the size and into the clutch area... That's how I nuked my 84 rabbit diesel clutch was there was a massive amount of oil going down into the clutch area.... Not good.
That probably would be why my clutch is slipping.
Speedadkt
05-20-2005, 08:18 AM
JettaDude:
Again, my post was not meant to criticize your driving. Also, I agree that with 5 previous owners, all driving the clutch differently, it's impossible (or close to it) to make it last. It is NOT however a simple part, It doesn't just engage or not. Mastering the clutch in any performance vehicle is more art and technique than simple phyisical foot stomps. THe more HP you put under that hood, the more skill it takes to launch your vehicle properly and without burning up everything inside. Don't take my word for it. Ask around, especially some people that may have any experience at all rally racing. You're not goin anywhere without knowing wtf you're doing with the clutch.
It's FAR easier to make a stock clutch last with one driver for 130k miles. No, I don't have a dyno sheet or pics of the engine bay, etc to prove to you or anyone else that my car has 300+ hp. That really isnt the point. My point was only that with consistent maintenance AND driving, a stock clutch can go much longer than you would expect. You just have to temper that right foot with a little consideration for the parts in your car, especially if its a daily driver. I for one don't have access to a garage without paying alot of money per hour for it. So, any responsible person would know better than to beat on their clutch constantly without being able to replace/maintain it.
Just my two pence. :?
By the way, I'll do my best to get some pics up here for you. If nothing else, at least you'll be able to see I was serious about mod'ing the car, not just hopping from one Napa to another.
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