View Full Version : 2nd gear problems
GoodDayForADrive
10-17-2004, 10:36 PM
I can't figure this out. While driving, if I shift too quickly into 2nd gear, it kind of grinds, but it's more like a big thunk, but metal on metal... it's kinda hard to explain. Anyways, it only happens in 2nd gear, but I noticed shifting to any other gear is also becoming more and more difficult... this can't be good...
jettadude
10-18-2004, 01:14 AM
well 2nd gear is always the frist to go, and VW's have problems with 2nd so ive heard, but check if you clutch is fully dissengaging, and or try making sure the clucth is all the waydown then shift fast and hard and see if it still does it. other wise yoru linkage could be hitting somthing and or binding up. but it could be yuour syncros if its grinding from the tranny. also checkyour tanny fluid, it could be causing hard shifting.
GoodDayForADrive
10-18-2004, 12:57 PM
well 2nd gear is always the frist to go, and VW's have problems with 2nd so ive heard, but check if you clutch is fully dissengaging, and or try making sure the clucth is all the waydown then shift fast and hard and see if it still does it. other wise yoru linkage could be hitting somthing and or binding up. but it could be yuour syncros if its grinding from the tranny. also checkyour tanny fluid, it could be causing hard shifting.
I'm pretty sure it's not the clutch, I adjusted my seat even to make sure I was engaging it all the way. I'll check my tranny fluid I suppose, see what that tells me.
burn_your_money
10-18-2004, 01:32 PM
Even though the clutch pedal may be going to the floor, that doesn't mean the clutch is fully disengaged. There may be too much slack in the cable. You should probably check that out.
GoodDayForADrive
10-18-2004, 01:39 PM
Even though the clutch pedal may be going to the floor, that doesn't mean the clutch is fully disengaged. There may be too much slack in the cable. You should probably check that out.
Where's that cable? :\ I'm a newb...
burn_your_money
10-18-2004, 01:53 PM
I am not sure if it is the same on your car, but it should be. When you look at your engine from the front of your car, you'll see the tranny on the right. There should be a horizontal bar on the very front of the tranny. That bar should be attatched to a cable that runs through your firewall. That's the clutch cable. Maybe some one with a A3 bentley can tell you how to check and adjsut it.
Sonjay
10-18-2004, 02:51 PM
Yes Check this cable!
one time i was comming home and my clutch pedal fell to the ground 8O yes i know very scary!!
turns out the clutch cable had snapped some how, anyways ogt a new one put it but its a manual adjustment, the old one was automatic adjustment :roll: anyhow check that along with tranny fluid, also how old are your bushings and linkage rods, this can cause probs with shifting as well. Or maybe your clutch is slipping solution = new CLUTCH :roll:
hope this helps :wink:
Gotturbo
10-18-2004, 04:19 PM
A3's have hydralic clutches.
burn_your_money
10-18-2004, 04:24 PM
A3's have hydralic clutches.
I kind of figured they would have been upgraded. Is there a chance there could be a leak in the hydrolic system or something like that?
jettadude
10-18-2004, 04:51 PM
ahhh there could be a leak but it would be bad bynow. the slave cylinder could be going bad, have that checked.`
burn_your_money
10-18-2004, 05:01 PM
I hear alot of talk about the master and slave cylinder. What exactly are they?
miamiDaveGLi
10-18-2004, 06:56 PM
just a shot in the dark here but i heard about short shift kits causing similar problems.
MKIIVR6
10-18-2004, 07:02 PM
2nd gear synchro is starting to go bad. When I had the 8 valve trans in my car it did the same thing. Instead of doing a trans rebuild for around $1000, get some GM Syncromesh trans fluid and swap it for the stuff that is in there now. It drastically reduces the grind, and also will help with shifting in all gears. This stuff is a little more expensive, but you can get away with spending $20 for the trans fluid it sure beats spending a grand.
miamiDaveGLi
10-18-2004, 09:03 PM
im glad i have brand new tranny :D
yeah thats what happend to my reverse gear aparenty broke a tooth and i woud get a GNARLY clicking when i was backing up. :evil:
GoodDayForADrive
10-18-2004, 10:26 PM
This is really sad but... I don't know where my tranny fluid is... *awaits slap*
Gotturbo
10-18-2004, 10:31 PM
should be like a oil plug on your tranny.
burn_your_money
10-19-2004, 10:55 AM
I had to split this thread. Check http://www.dubnetworks.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=533 for the last few replies.
Gotturbo
10-19-2004, 05:49 PM
What ever you do when refilling the fluid DO NOT pour it in the bell housing on the tranny where the timing light hole is. I've seen a few people do that and the end result is usually a new clutch.
that part of a post by 92vr6 got moved...
GoodDayForADrive
10-20-2004, 11:21 PM
AutoZone was out of stock on that stuff, so I'll get some this weekend, but I'm gonna take a pic of where I think I should pour it in, just to make sure, lol
burn_your_money
10-21-2004, 08:20 PM
Thats a good idea. No sence breaking stuff...
GoodDayForADrive
10-23-2004, 03:40 PM
Posting this image to see if this is the right stuff.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_img_a/561507_35_thumb.jpg?rnd=2979
GoodDayForADrive
10-23-2004, 03:41 PM
wtf... gotta fix that..
Edit: can't seem to fix it... oh well, basically it's this:
Mobil 1 75W-90 (what the guy told me I needed)
Synthetic Gear Lubricant
jettadude
10-23-2004, 05:59 PM
i think you need hypoid oil.
GoodDayForADrive
10-23-2004, 06:03 PM
i think you need hypoid oil.
I have no idea what that is... 92vr6 said get syncromesh, and that's what I asked for, and that's what the guy pointed out for me..
jettadude
10-23-2004, 06:07 PM
ok all VW's to my knowledge have a hypoid tranny. a hypoid gear is a gear with teeth very close togeather more so then normal. for better accelleration or some stuff. but they require special oil. syncromesh is hypoid oil just the best you can buy. well not the best but preatty damn good.
Slalom
10-23-2004, 06:08 PM
wtf... gotta fix that..
Edit: can't seem to fix it... oh well, basically it's this:
Mobil 1 75W-90 (what the guy told me I needed)
Synthetic Gear Lubricant
my recommendation is Redline tranny fluid... im running MT-90, my 1986 9A shifts like butter...
oh and easiest place to pour in the fluid, speedo cable hole, unbolt the cable base and pull it out, fill er up, 2 litres if the tranny is completely empty
GoodDayForADrive
10-23-2004, 06:08 PM
ok all VW's to my knowledge have a hypoid tranny. a hypoid gear is a gear with teeth very close togeather more so then normal. for better accelleration or some stuff. but they require special oil. syncromesh is hypoid oil just the best you can buy. well not the best but preatty damn good.
So what I have is not syncromesh?..
GoodDayForADrive
10-23-2004, 06:10 PM
wtf... gotta fix that..
Edit: can't seem to fix it... oh well, basically it's this:
Mobil 1 75W-90 (what the guy told me I needed)
Synthetic Gear Lubricant
my recommendation is Redline tranny fluid... im running MT-90, my 1986 9A shifts like butter...
oh and easiest place to pour in the fluid, speedo cable hole, unbolt the cable base and pull it out, fill er up, 2 litres if the tranny is completely empty
2 and 1/9 :)
Slalom
10-23-2004, 06:13 PM
ok all VW's to my knowledge have a hypoid tranny. a hypoid gear is a gear with teeth very close togeather more so then normal. for better accelleration or some stuff. but they require special oil. syncromesh is hypoid oil just the best you can buy. well not the best but preatty damn good.
So what I have is not syncromesh?..
you don't want to use the Mobil 1 in your tranny... its meant for differentials
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil1_Synthetic_Gear_Lubricant_LS_75W-90.asp
GoodDayForADrive
10-23-2004, 06:25 PM
Well does anyone know where I can get this syncromesh stuff... cause I didn't see it at autozone...
Slalom
10-23-2004, 06:33 PM
Well does anyone know where I can get this syncromesh stuff... cause I didn't see it at autozone...
http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?pvID=73&prodID=57&subcatID=18
http://www.pennzoil.com/products/gear_oil/syncro_fluid.html3
http://5speedtransmissions.com/gm_syncromesh.html
GoodDayForADrive
10-23-2004, 06:40 PM
I noticed that last one has no weight, but that's the stuff 92vr6 told me to get.
Slalom
10-23-2004, 07:45 PM
I noticed that last one has no weight, but that's the stuff 92vr6 told me to get.
you'll be fine with any of those 3... Royal Purple is another you could look into
http://www.royalpurple.com/prodsa/scmax.html
jettadude
10-24-2004, 10:07 AM
well GM makes syncromesh so your best bet to find it is a GM dealer but it might cost more.
GoodDayForADrive
10-24-2004, 11:13 PM
well GM makes syncromesh so your best bet to find it is a GM dealer but it might cost more.
Well I'd rather not order it, so what kind of a place sells GM stuff like that?
jettadude
10-25-2004, 02:27 PM
dealer will have it. if not, hmm maybe autozone? i dunno. all i know is that dealers carry it, or should.
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