Timing Belt Snapped

[kodkingvegeta]

Thats right, my timing belt snapped, as soon as my car shut off and I pulled over and tryed to restart it, and all I heard was the starter turning over, I new what the problem was.

Lucky when it snapped it didnt take any valves with it, from what I can see anyways. Here some pictures.

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Its never been on a tow truck. Never, this is a first.

[jettadude]

damn sucks dude. your looking at a valve job now.

[kodkingvegeta]

Hopefully not, Im installing a new timing belt on saturday. So I will find out then if it needs a valve job also.

[Mr_Diesel]

I am beginnnig to see why it was only $500... By the looks of the exhaust and wing, I am assuming you were racing when the timing belt snapped? All honda engines, old/new, fast/slow are all interference engines. You most certainly have valve damage, and depending on how high the rpms were when you snapped the belt, you probably have piston damage too.

Don't waste your money on a timing belt that won't fix the problem. Pull the head off and take care of the internal damage. Get the head fully rebuilt and get yourself some B16 pistons (all of those engines have a 75mm bore) and I think the B16 pistons result in 10.5:1 compression or a little higher. That should make it a little more peppy. And since you have to replace your pistons anyway, might as well stick some B16's in there.

Cheap
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As I said earlier, pick only 2. You cant expect an old ass tired honda to be a race car. Save your money and put some dollars into the engine and you could have yourself a car that could contend with the newer economy cars. And if you really saved, did low comperssion and a turbo, you would start to contend with VR6's and other cars of the such. I know save is a cuss word in your language, but try it.... If you don't put money into the car you will never have anything.0

[kodkingvegeta]

I am beginnnig to see why it was only $500... By the looks of the exhaust and wing, I am assuming you were racing when the timing belt snapped? All honda engines, old/new, fast/slow are all interference engines. You most certainly have valve damage, and depending on how high the rpms were when you snapped the belt, you probably have piston damage too.

Don't waste your money on a timing belt that won't fix the problem. Pull the head off and take care of the internal damage. Get the head fully rebuilt and get yourself some B16 pistons (all of those engines have a 75mm bore) and I think the B16 pistons result in 10.5:1 compression or a little higher. That should make it a little more peppy. And since you have to replace your pistons anyway, might as well stick some B16's in there.

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Reliable
Fast

As I said earlier, pick only 2. You cant expect an old ass tired honda to be a race car. Save your money and put some dollars into the engine and you could have yourself a car that could contend with the newer economy cars. And if you really saved, did low comperssion and a turbo, you would start to contend with VR6's and other cars of the such. I know save is a cuss word in your language, but try it.... If you don't put money into the car you will never have anything.0

Listen u *******, go ahead and ban me. I put my new belt on, and retimed it, and it runs like nothing happend.

Also the 500 dollar car was the red one, not this tan one. The tan one was owend by an old lady that bought it brand new from the show room floor and had oil and matince done every 3000 miles, I have the records to prove it. The red one was owened by and older man that didnt feel like putting a new tranny in since he had two other cars. But every 3000 miles he took it to pep boys and had the oil changed, which I have the papers to prove that also. So why dont u stop acting like u no everything about hondas, when in fact u HATE THEM. So how the hell do you no what ur talking about.

Also like I said this tan one is my family car, only thing it has is a spoiler and some gauges, which I put on it, cuz I wanted to show off, but Im taking the spoiler off anyways. So it dosnt matter. I never once raced this car (call me a lier I dont care anymore). Its my FAMILY car, nothing more.

[Mr_Diesel]

Listen here you little pecker... I got all of my information from another honda site... I actually did some research before I ran my mouth off. It really shows how damn immature you are when you act like that. I was trying to help you. Even if the car does run, don't count it being trouble free. When the pistons hit the valves (even if it was low rpm with minor damage) you will still see adverse affects like massive oil consumption, smoking, power and compression loss etc... I've seen kids who try to run their cars after a timing belt failure on an interference motor (engine still runs) having valves actually fall out of the head into the cylinder resulting in catastrophic failure including holes in the block, bent rods, broken crankshafts, complete destruction of the head and the list goes on and on.

You are a DAMN fool for selling the jetta you had... which in it's stock configuration is faster than that honda will be with "performance" modifications. Not to mention a lot more reliable and safer.

If what you say above about your car is true, that must mean you have the little 1.6L 8V POS engine that nobody in the honda scene wants because they are garbage 70hp economy engines. I thought you had one of the 16V engines.

Don't come into a forum full of VW enthusiasts and run your mouth off about your honda. You will loose. EVERY TIME.

Ohhh, and one more thing. I don't hate hondas. I hate the ***** kids that drive them. ***** kids that think that one day their civic will be as fast as the ones in fast and the furious and will do anything to prove it. ***** kids who are usually ill tempered and think they are the hottest **** alive. Kids like you who run their mouth off like they have something to prove when in fact they have NOTHING but an old ass tired civic with nothing more than a 100 dollar wing from auto zone and gauges that don't do anything.

You admit your car is a family car, but you put a fart can and a wing on the car anyway? The money you spent on just those two things could have paid for 20% of your turbo system. That's what I don't get about you wankers. You don't get it and you never will.

[kodkingvegeta]

Even after all of your "research" your still giving false info about my car's. Both my cars are the 1.5L motors. Not the 1.6 Vtecs. There is no diffrence on how the car runs now. To before the timing broke. It runs just the same. You said I would see small differences. There are none. It runs just the same.

Im not coming to a VW forum runing my mouth about a honda, I came here making conv about my car because the timing broke. Then YOU opened your mouth and started making assumptions about my car because I have a muffler and spoiler on it.

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/126553

[KimmySon12]

oOH! he made a mistake... you never have? why must you two Bitch about this?! what's done is done Diesel may have been wrong, who knows one thing is for sure, time will tell if you have internal damage. if he is, then he is.

"Honda 1:VW 0"

ok? happy? now quit your bitching...

p.s. i think diesel has a point with the wing/fart can/gauges. they don't show off anything...

[MKIIVR6]

OEM Plus, my old ladies car. Need I say more?

http://www.hostdub.com/albums/WasatchVR6/DSCN1604.sized.jpg


Just my opinion, spend $$$ first on maintaining the car. (I.E. Timing belts, other wear items that need attention) Then mod it. Just be prepared to take some heat posting ham fried rice on a Kraut forum. No offense, that is all. :)

[kodkingvegeta]

oOH! he made a mistake... you never have? why must you two Bitch about this?! what's done is done Diesel may have been wrong, who knows one thing is for sure, time will tell if you have internal damage. if he is, then he is.

"Honda 1:VW 0"

ok? happy? now quit your bitching...

p.s. i think diesel has a point with the wing/fart can/gauges. they don't show off anything...

Its not about who wins or lose's. I was just trying to make a convo.

[KimmySon12]

since when does Bitching and arguing at each other = convo?

[Mr_Diesel]

According to your post on answer bag, you have the D15B2 engine. The D15B2 IS an INTERFERENCE engine. I looked it up in my Dayco timing belt book. If you don't believe me, call autozone and ask. You'll believe anything you read on the internet, don't you? You got your information from a schmuck.

Not only is it an interference engine, it produces 23hp less than the STOCK 2.0L engine in the Jetta you had.

D15B2 1.5 16V SOHC INTERFERENCE PGM-FI 1493 92hp@6000rpm 89tq@4500rpm '88-'91 Civic DX/LX (USA)

99.9999999% of all 16v 4 cylinder engines ARE interference, and most higher performing 8V engines are too.

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Honda: ZEEEEROO ---- VW: 1

[jettadude]

all that i have to say is

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[Mr_Diesel]

This whole post pretty much describes to a tune why I hate rice boys. All I can say is I hope he grows up some day.

[kodkingvegeta]

I did not get my answers from some schmuck. I got my answers from my 2 friends. The one being a part guy for 10+ Yrs dealing with honda parts every single day of his life. And the second from my family mechine that has been one since he was 15, and now hes 50+. They both told me that it was a non interference motor. As far as answer bag I was trying to future my information on my motor.

As far as a rice boy, why do u keep calling me that? Because Im trying to defend myself when u call me a ricer, because I have a spoiler and gauges and a muffler on my car? What about ppl that do that to VW's? huh? Whats that make them? Kool? Perfect? Why is it when ppl put stuff on Honda's there ricers, but as soon as sumone dose sumtin to a VW there all high and mighty. Im not the one that needs to grow up Mr_Diesel. I think you are.

[Mr_Diesel]

I just called the a local Honda dealership and they told me the D15B2 engine was interference. The head is a hemisphereical design, which means the valves open into the cylinder on an angle. The bottom portion of the valve crosses paths with the piston travel resulting in "INTERFERENCE" between the 2 moving parts resulting in valves that look like this:

http://www.yk.rim.or.jp/~t_asai/Beat/images/03/019x170x200.jpg

The credibility of your "honda expert friends" just flew out the window with me. Next time, call a real mechanic. Better yet, go to any auto parts store and have them look up the timing belt. They will tell you it's interference.

Anybody that does the wing/fart can to any kind of car is a rice boy too. Just because it's a VW changes nothing. VWvortex.com is a prime example of this.

Me grow up? I guess because I back up all my claims with cited proof and own 5 classy cars, a house and I am married to an extremely hot wife makes me young and immature.

[burn_your_money]

Take it to PMs, or better yet just drop it

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